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  • THW withdraw from Afghanistan

    2:49 am on November 6, 2009 | 0 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
    Tags: afganistan, , terrorism, war, withdraw

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    Darwin Lecture Theatre 2, 11/11/09, 6pm

    Closely related to last weeks debate and in recognition of Remberance Day we turn our attentions to the UK’s military involvement in Afghanistan. An involvement that has become increasingly controversial as more and more troops get injured or, most tragically, killed in the conflict.

    The proposition in this debate will want to persuade the audience that enough is enough. Too many young lives have been lost for an increasingly dubious cause. They may decide to justify the withdrawl as a consequence of the increasing casualties suffered or they may want to go right back to questioning the original reasons for the UK’s involvement. Most importantly they will want to prove that the British militarty’s conintual involvement in Afghanistan is detrimental rather than beneficial to the aims it sought to achieve.

    The opposition, on the other hand, will want to emphasise the importance of struggle. That to pull out before the job is finished is wrong, Afghanistan was occupied to introduce democracy and to allow the Afghan people access to the same rights we enjoy, just because the aims are tough is no reason for the troops to be withdraw. They may also want to deflect some of the proposition’s more emotive arguments by emphasising the fact that soldiers become soldiers out of choice, they know the risks when they join the armed forces.

    Links to help research:

    http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=145 a summary of some of the issues (BEWARE OF THE CONTEXT)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/03/afghanistan-terror-taliban-al-qaida an argument for

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/nov/04/kim-howells-afghanistan-withdrawal an argument against

     
  • This House Can justify the torture of terrorists

    12:36 pm on November 2, 2009 | 0 Permalink | Log in to leave a Comment
    Tags: , terrorism, torture

    6a00d83451c36069e20105368f5faf970b-800wiWednesday (4/11/09), 6pmDLT1

    Congratulations to the proposition in passing, what was, a very difficult motion and winning the debate. Well done to all the speakers, especially Ollie who was the Chair’s best speaker.

    Tying in with Guy Fawkes/Bonfire Night celebrations we are turning our attention this week to terrorism and the controversial issue of torture. The controversies following the West’s response to 9/11 has led to accusations of torture being used. In normal society torture is abhorred but, in the unique context of international terrorism, are there situations where torture can be justified?

    The proposition will need to be very specific on precisely when torture can be used otherwise they will lose this debate within two minutes of it starting but, with the right parameters, they can put forward a case that could outweigh the obvious moral objections to torture. They will want to argue that in extreme situations, extreme measures must be taken. That when the life of a nation is under threat torture can be a necessary and legitimate ‘lesser evil’. One interesting issue is exactly where do you draw the line in terms of torture, isn’t incarceration through the penal system a form of torture?

    The opposition however will want to reject the proposition’s suppositions, that the ‘ticking time bomb’ is a situation grounded in fiction and best left to Kiefer Sutherland’s Jack Bauer to take care of. They will want to emphasised the importance of human rights and that the practice of torture could increase the terrorist threat rather than reduce it. 

    Here are some links to get you started with your research:

    http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=358 a summary of some of the issues in play

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6877401.ece a former MI5 Chief’s arguments for torture

    http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/issues/1-torture/index.shtml the Human Rights, legal charity Liberty, a great starting point for facts and statistics

     
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